(NOT YET THE) ANSWER FOR PHOTO QUIZ #5

Another good example for “give the source and a good one”… ;)

Really looks like it is indeed Mrs Yourna Byrd, as atane thinks too. Let’s wait for the book “Jazz seen” then…

Good old books! Let’s take good care for them… and why not take the opportunity to give here a special thanks to the Librarians for their work!

Thanks for this interesting challenge to:

burnedshoes:

Quiz question #5 (see previous post):

Who is this beautiful lady with the trumpet?

As I said: it’s not the easiest question. I’m not sure if you’re aware, but Google has this useful image search function that helps you find other online “copies” of a picture you’re trying to get more information on.

Normally, this is a nice function for researching, but what happens if there is so much false information on the internet that it suddenly becomes truth? Well, that is exactly what happened with this photograph.

Let’s see what Google comes up with:

Suggestion number 1: “Billie Holiday” (which is WRONG):

When I first saw this photo on atane’s blog I read “Billie Holiday, looking adorable”. As my attention span still hasn’t reached the 21st century, I started to read the rest of the paragraph:

”(…) this is how wikipedia scholars and google image searchers unknowingly spread incorrect information. Someone posts incorrect info, then it gets shared until the incorrect information becomes the “truth”, and no one will know because if you google it, the incorrect info is what you will find. If you do a google image search for Billie Holiday, this image comes up. (…) The picture was taken in 1960. Aside from the fact that there is virtually no resemblance between the two women, Billie Holiday would have been 45 in 1960. The woman in the picture is clearly not in her mid 40s. One other thing, Billie Holiday died in 1959. Kind of hard to pose for a pic after you’re dead.”

I couldn’t find any trustworthy information about the exact date, but judging by the cars in the background it must be a shot from around 1960.

Suggestion number 2: Valaida Snow (also WRONG):

Similar reasons as before: Valaida Snow was born in 1904 and would have been in her mid 50s at the time this picture was taken - and she died in 1956. No possible way that she’s the woman in this photo (sorry cellulodroid, the picture on your wall was wrong).

Suggestion number 3: Lorraine Glover (RIGHT or WRONG?)

Some websites say the picture shows Donald Byrd’s wife, Lorraine Glover.

Suggestion number 4: Yourna Bird (RIGHT or WRONG?)

Other sources also claim this person to be Donald Byrd’s wife, but the name “Yourna Bird” is used there.

” (…) the lady in the picture holding Dr. Byrd’s trumpet is his wife, but her name is Yourna. I spoke with her 3 days ago, and she is still strikingly beautiful! She remembers taking the photo. I’m puzzled as to why the photographer William Claxton credited the young lady in the picture as Lorraine Glover.” (source)

Gwranda came up with both names, let’s see if she was right! If somebody has links to reliable biographical information about Donald Byrd I would be very thankful!

Even my friend & top researcher chagalov wasn’t able to find reliable information about the person in the picture or the photographer’s name. The moral of the story? Question everything, especially online information!

Like chagalov, I tried to check Claxtons website. The problem is: if you follow Google’s link to his website, the page won’t load because of some Flash problem. However, if you follow this link, you can access it. But: there’s no information about our photo on there. Another impasse.

Some web sources also say this is Billie Holiday shot by Herman Leonard, more false information: Leonard has photographed many jazz celebrities and also took some great shots of Billie Holiday (check out some of his photos here), but not this one.
I can tell you that the photo above was taken by William Claxton and is featured in his book “Jazz Seen” - and that’s the only 100% reliable information I got for you today. I ordered a second hand version of the book and will publish the final answer for photo quiz #5 as soon as it has arrived.

I hope you enjoyed this tricky question, I’ll keep you updated! All the best, B

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(NOT YET THE) ANSWER FOR PHOTO QUIZ #5

Another good example for “give the source and a good one”… ;)

Really looks like it is indeed Mrs Yourna Byrd, as atane thinks too. Let’s wait for the book “Jazz seen” then…

Good old books! Let’s take good care for them… and why not take the opportunity to give here a special thanks to the Librarians for their work!

Thanks for this interesting challenge to:

burnedshoes:

Quiz question #5 (see previous post):

Who is this beautiful lady with the trumpet?

As I said: it’s not the easiest question. I’m not sure if you’re aware, but Google has this useful image search function that helps you find other online “copies” of a picture you’re trying to get more information on.

Normally, this is a nice function for researching, but what happens if there is so much false information on the internet that it suddenly becomes truth? Well, that is exactly what happened with this photograph.

Let’s see what Google comes up with:

Suggestion number 1: “Billie Holiday” (which is WRONG):

When I first saw this photo on atane’s blog I read “Billie Holiday, looking adorable”. As my attention span still hasn’t reached the 21st century, I started to read the rest of the paragraph:

”(…) this is how wikipedia scholars and google image searchers unknowingly spread incorrect information. Someone posts incorrect info, then it gets shared until the incorrect information becomes the “truth”, and no one will know because if you google it, the incorrect info is what you will find. If you do a google image search for Billie Holiday, this image comes up. (…) The picture was taken in 1960. Aside from the fact that there is virtually no resemblance between the two women, Billie Holiday would have been 45 in 1960. The woman in the picture is clearly not in her mid 40s. One other thing, Billie Holiday died in 1959. Kind of hard to pose for a pic after you’re dead.”

I couldn’t find any trustworthy information about the exact date, but judging by the cars in the background it must be a shot from around 1960.

Suggestion number 2: Valaida Snow (also WRONG):

Similar reasons as before: Valaida Snow was born in 1904 and would have been in her mid 50s at the time this picture was taken - and she died in 1956. No possible way that she’s the woman in this photo (sorry cellulodroid, the picture on your wall was wrong).

Suggestion number 3: Lorraine Glover (RIGHT or WRONG?)

Some websites say the picture shows Donald Byrd’s wife, Lorraine Glover.

Suggestion number 4: Yourna Bird (RIGHT or WRONG?)

Other sources also claim this person to be Donald Byrd’s wife, but the name “Yourna Bird” is used there.

” (…) the lady in the picture holding Dr. Byrd’s trumpet is his wife, but her name is Yourna. I spoke with her 3 days ago, and she is still strikingly beautiful! She remembers taking the photo. I’m puzzled as to why the photographer William Claxton credited the young lady in the picture as Lorraine Glover.” (source)

Gwranda came up with both names, let’s see if she was right! If somebody has links to reliable biographical information about Donald Byrd I would be very thankful!

Even my friend & top researcher chagalov wasn’t able to find reliable information about the person in the picture or the photographer’s name. The moral of the story? Question everything, especially online information!

Like chagalov, I tried to check Claxtons website. The problem is: if you follow Google’s link to his website, the page won’t load because of some Flash problem. However, if you follow this link, you can access it. But: there’s no information about our photo on there. Another impasse.

Some web sources also say this is Billie Holiday shot by Herman Leonard, more false information: Leonard has photographed many jazz celebrities and also took some great shots of Billie Holiday (check out some of his photos here), but not this one.
I can tell you that the photo above was taken by William Claxton and is featured in his book “Jazz Seen” - and that’s the only 100% reliable information I got for you today. I ordered a second hand version of the book and will publish the final answer for photo quiz #5 as soon as it has arrived.

I hope you enjoyed this tricky question, I’ll keep you updated! All the best, B

» find more photo quiz questions HERE «